Viewer comment: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?

This will make you re-think : A Trivia question in Sunday School :
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations ?

Guess the Answer?

Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
Almost a four-year term to a Presidency.

All I can say is Lord Have Mercy on us.!!!!!!
According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will
be a man, in his 40’s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with
persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says
that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,
and when he is in power, will destroy everything ..

Is it OBAMA??
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
you can!  Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet…do it!
I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.
From: Dr. John Tisdale

Published in: on August 14, 2008 at 9:07 am  Comments (170)  

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  1. I have thought of this and it is scary as hell. Obama certainly fits the description.

  2. In the words of another…

    How could a man with the farthest-left voting record in the U.S. Senate…
    … who has vowed to raise taxes and increase government spending exponentially at a time of grave economic crisis…
    … who has promised unilateral retreat from the War on Terror and unconditional talks with foreign despots…
    … who has had long-standing, close relationships with a former terrorist, a hate-spewing racist minister, and the corrupt operators of Chicago machine politics…
    … how could such a man be on the brink of becoming the next President of the United States?

    The liberal media has one answer to that question: Barack Hussein Obama has been “delivered to us” (in the words of MSNBC’s Chris Matthews) as a kind of political savior who will end our national divisions, bind up our historical wounds, and infuse us with “hope” by delivering “change.”

  3. Read the book Obama Nation which digs deep into who Obama really is. The biography is NO1 on

  4. Obama on abortion

  5. Although I am very dubious about Obama and do not intend to vote for him, this Urban Legend about Obama being the Anti-Christ which has been floating around for months is rather ridiculous. I hate it when politics and religion get mixed together and inflame and scare people. See the article on this topic at:

    Consider the source of your post from Dr. John Tisdale and remember that through the centuries going back to Protestant Reformers like Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Knox, John Wesley, etc., they have called Roman Catholic popes the “Antichrist”. And, many popes have called their enemies the “Antichrist”. I remember back when John F. Kennedy was running for president, he and the pope were called the “Antichrist” by some religious nut-cases. (No, I am not Catholic but fair is fair to me.)

    Note also that the Book Of Revelation was completed at the end of the second century and the religion of Islam was not founded until about 400 years later. Nowhere in the Bible is the word “Islam” or “Muslim” to be found. (No, I am not a Muslim either, and truth be told, I have little respect for that religion particularly as practiced by its dangerous extremists.)

    The Gospel of Matthew advises us to watch out for false prophets, and I do, and I also watch out for false fear-mongering posts like this one. Obama may well be “false” but to call him the Anti-Christ is just dangerous rabble-rousing.

  6. If the shoe fits~~~

  7. Jon Pen, The Book of Revelation was completed near the end of the first century Anno Domini not the second by St. John the Beloved Apostle and author of the gospel which bears his name and three epistles as well.

    We ought to treat the subject of who is the Antichrist with a certain degree of discernment for the concept of Antichrist is more than just the latter day indwelt minion of Satan. It is also a spiritual condition.

    St. John in his first epistle (I St. John 2: 18) penned the following: “Little children, it is the last time and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” The beloved disciple of our Lord warned of many antichrists prior to coming of the man of sin. He was given of the Holy Spirit to pen that remark largely because human beings have a the tendency to look through the jaded lense of secular history, which views all things continuing as before, from generation to generation (see Ecclesiastes 1: 9-11; II St. Peter 3: 1-7).

    Yes, there have been many antichrists in the past as well as those who are alive today. And the test for such is found in I St. John 2: 22, 23; 4: 3 and involves a denial of Jesus Christ having come in the flesh. That might not sound like much of a test, but consider in the affirmative what a Christian believes: that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Prince of Israel, the only begotten Son of the one, true and living God, and the only way to salvation in God. Therefore the inverse or denial of such negates the very word of God, making God out to be a liar. That is the spirit of antichrist. And that is what makes the adjective “many” into an enormous figure because the concept is not only a person but a spiritual condition which envelops the unregenerate masses making them into subjects of Satan’s kingdom (see I St. John 4:3; St. John 8: 44; St. Matthew 13: 36-43).

    In Daniel (7: 7-11, 19-26) and in Revelation (13: 1-8) the Antichrist is referred to as a beast or the beast, which is not only a person but a kingdom. The specific personage of the Antichrist in Daniel 7 is the little horn who shall uproot three other rulers which had been part of the kingdom prior to his arrival. He will have eyes like a man, which indicates his humanity and he will have the capacity to speak persuasively so as to influence the masses of unregenerate mankind to follow after him.

    He will receive a mortal wound to his head and will be miraculously healed and this will inspire people to worship the dragon (Satan) who gave him his power (see Revelation 13: 3, 4).

    St. Paul tells us in II Thessalonians 2: 4 that he will be worshiped as God, seated in God’s temple claiming to be God. Now there is no temple of God any longer. That was destroyed by the Roman legions under Titus in 70 A.D. So an authentic sign and wonder would be the rebuilding of that temple on its original site, which is on Mt. Moriah inside the city of Jerusalem.

    Daniel refers to the Antichrist as being a member of the people (a prince) that shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (the temple) (see Daniel 9:26).

    Daniel 9: 27 speaks of this prince of the Romans making a covenant with many for one week which is code for seven years. He will also be a covenant-breaker because he will violate his agreement and desecrate the sanctuary (see St. Matthew 24: 15).

    The Antichrist by the very nature of his name is opposed to Godhead and in particular the second person of the Holy Trinity. He will come to bring about the final rebellion of God’s creation. Examine Genesis 11: 1-6 which is the account of the Tower of Babel. In verse 6 God said “Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them which they have imagined to do.” This verse hearkens back to Genesis 6: 5 wherein it was written, “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” The devil is nowhere mentioned in Genesis, but he was nevertheless present throughout from the temptation of Eve, to Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, to the abominable acts at Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. One need only utilize the biblical record as a lense through which we might examine the history of mankind. For in so doing, one will see the hand of evil manipulating the lives of mortals to carry out his sordid purposes.

    The Antichrist as indwelt by Satan will be his finest work of deception and wickedness (see II Thessalonians 2: 9, 10; St. Matthew 24: 24).

    He will have a kingdom which will exercise a great deal of influence throughout the world for the last seven years of human history apart from God (see Revelation 13: 5; Daniel 7: 23-25)

    He will eventually gain control over the economies of the world, preventing those who will not take his mark from engaging in open commerce and will have the power to put to death all who will not take his mark or worship him (Revelation 13: 17, 18).

    He will make war on the saints of God and prevail against them (see Daniel 7: 21; Revelation 13: 7).

    He will seek to change times and laws (see Daniel 7: 25). That can have a variety of meanings but one thing is clear, the Antichrist will have all the power necessary to alter the very thinking of unregenerate mankind so that all will conform to his will. The Radical Jacobins of the French Revolution sought to restructure the French calendar to remove God from the picture. This is likely what the Antichrist will do as well.

    He will bring upon the world of unregenerate mankind such plagues and devastations which will be on a scale as has not been seen before nor ever will be seen again (see St. Matthew 24: 21, 22; Revelation 6: 1-17; 8: 6-13; 9: 1-21; 11: 13; 16: 1-21).

    If a candidate, or really anyone fits this description then as JP said “If the shoe fits… “

  8. And Malcolm, where did the walmart smily faces come from? I do not remember inserting them in my response.

  9. Obama’s religious affiliation is one that practices Liberation Theology. Liberation Theology is a group who believes they are repressed and that God will deliver their oppressors to them. In this case the oppressors are America and the oppressed are African Americans.

    Some theologians from Liberation Theology emphasize those parts of the Bible where Jesus’ mission is described not in terms of bringing peace (social order) but bringing a sword (social unrest), e.g. Matthew 10:34, Luke 22:35-38 and Matthew 26:51-52. These passages are interpreted, literally by some, as a call to arms, to carry out a Christian mission of justice. Marxist concepts such as the doctrine of perpetual class struggle are also significant.

    With Obama as President the Liberation Theologists will have a powerful ally to secure social unrest via the sword. With this understanding you should come to understand why Obamas’ plan for a ‘civilian National security force’ is a very dangerous concept to our continued sovereignty.

    Why would America elect a man who doesn’t hold his hand over his heart during the National Anthem while embracing a religious belief organized to bring about our destruction?

    The survival of our Nation is at risk this election.

  10. Good points JS.

  11. Vote McCain!!!! be done with it. At least you can be somewhat sure of what you are getting…Obama is not in our best interests as Americans. Vote McCain. it is really the only choice. Wake up people..!!!!!! Our liberties are at stake. I for one certainly do not want higher taxes. socilaized medicine and etc. talk about oppressed!!!
    This is a most serious election. Vote smart!!! Too bad Ron Paul is not a nominee..

  12. Republican and always a Republican! Unite as people, not black, white, gay, straight, tall, short, fat, skinny, ……….. just unite and vote REPUBLICAN!

  13. Rev. Bryan Dabney, Thanks to your lesson in theology decorated with smiley faces, this tired old Ole Miss history major stands corrected about the completion date of the Book of Revelation. How stupid of me not to remember it was about 90 A.D., not 190 A.D.

    The apocalyptic language in the Book of Revelation is full of some of the strangest metaphors and symbols I have ever read, but the word Antichrist and a figure called the Antichrist never occurs in it.

    Any malcontent or those drinking interesting Kool-Aid with their ‘Eat Me” Brownies can cherry-pick through Scripture and pull any line out of context to fit any agenda from defending slavery to polygamy to whatever. Some of them would say Obama bears the mark of Cain and is the Antichrist as well.

    Lord help us in these troubled times and deliver us from evil.

  14. Yes Lord help us in these troubled times.Please Lord give Americans the wisdom to vote for Mc Cain..

  15. The issue, Is Obama the man to run this county. He is not.

  16. Jon Pen, I cannot take credit for the smiley faces. They are a mystery of technology as I did not intend to use them within my comments. Nevertheless, if you derived some joy from them that’s good.

    While the name “Antichrist” does not appear in the Book of Revelation, nevertheless we know that the use of the term “the beast” as described in Revelation 11, 13 and 19 is an accurate description of him. The person of the Antichrist is also known by several other names as well: “that man of sin”, “the son of perdition” and “that Wicked” (II Thessalonians 2: 3, 8).

    As to the particular identity of the Antichrist in our world, I can only offer this caveat: we should be cautious in our use of such a religiously-charged term. The ever crying of “wolf” does not help any cause or purpose. Nevertheless, St. John tells us that there is now in the world a “spirit of antichrist” making it possible for a person to be an “antichrist” without being “the Antichrist.”

    In Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance, one will find listed under the term “Antichrist” the New Testament references for him. Many reference Bibles will have marginal notes which will lead one to those passages in the Old Testament regarding this subject. Careful handling of the Word is an important duty of every regenerate person. Be a Berean in all things (Acts 17: 11).

    As a matter of interest, would you please explain what you meant by your phrase related to drinking kool-aide, etc.

  17. Was he talking about Jim Jones, Guyana. kool aid??? Another nut!!!Call it what you may!!the world is full of them.

  18. …’drinking the kool-aid’…. is a reference to those who blindly follow another without question, to the point of drinking poison kool-aid. Such as Jim Jones followers in Guyana.

    …for the record, it was Flavor-aid, not Kool-aid.

  19. Rev. Dabney, I don’t know if you are pulling my leg with your question or what, and perhaps back in the day you were too young to read about crazy Jim Jones and maybe you did not read the “Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test” about to be “cool” you had to drink the Kool-Aid (go along, buy into the idea), but, at any rate, FYI read the clip below.

    “Drinking the Kool-Aid”

    The earliest known use of the term in its figurative, non-literal context (that is, outside of descriptions of people actually drinking real Kool-Aid), is from a 1987 quote about former Washington, D.C., mayor Marion Barry in the Washington Post.[2]

    The term is derived from the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the “Jonestown Massacre”, a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (The discrepancy between the idiom and the actual occurrence is likely due to Flavor Aid’s relative obscurity, compared to the easily recognizable Kool-Aid.) The precise expression can be attested in usage at least as early as 1987.[3]

    The saying “Do not drink the Kool-Aid” now commonly refers to the Jonestown tragedy, meaning “Do not trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side,” or “Whatever they tell you, do not believe it too strongly.”[4] Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly is famous for using the term in this manner.[5]

    Having “drunk the Kool-Aid” also refers to being a strong or fervent believer in a particular philosophy or mission — wholeheartedly or blindly believing in its virtues.[6][7]

  20. I understand what the expression in question meant in terms of Jim Jones as I was a young adult at the time. I asked you to explain what you meant by that terminology which was coupled with another colorful idiom.

    By the last definition anyone who “wholeheartedly” supports any candidate, position or ideal is to be shunned or thought to have drunk the cult kool-aide, is that correct?

    And do you wholeheartedly believe this to be true?

    I understand blind allegiance to anything can pose a problem in varying degrees. But wholeheartedly supporting a cause or concern may or may not include being blindly attached to it.

  21. The following from another site for your perusal:

    The University of Illinois Chicago refuses to release documents held at the public institution’s library relating to the Annenberg Challenge on Excellence in Education.

    The Annenberg Challenge was run by none other than Barack Obama and was started by terrorist Bill Ayers, in whose home Barack Obama got his political start.

    The Special Collections section of the Richard J. Daley Library at the university had agreed to make the documents available for review by reporters, but the university then refused.

    The records now will not be released.

    What is the University of Illinois hiding? Is it destroying damning information about Obama before deciding to release the information?

    Contact the Richard J. Daley Library at (312) 996-2724 and tell them to release the Annenberg Challenge files for public inspection.

    Call Barack Obama at (202) 224-2854 and ask him to support the public release of the Annenberg Challenge files.

    What are they hiding? I suspect the documents will show that Barack Obama had a direct, substantial relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers — a relationship Obama denies having.

  22. A black pastor on Obama…

  23. For your reading and comment:

    JACK WHEELER is a brilliant man who was the author of Reagan’s strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several mega corporations on global trends and the future, etc. He is in semi-retirement now. He is a true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer.

    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler

    The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

    What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

    It’s something Hillary doesn’t understand – how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.

    Thus Obama has become the white liberals’ Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.

    Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.

    His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.

  24. I read this and it makes me sick to my stomach that religion is twisted to give supposedly Christian people a reason to hide their racism by using the Bible to push their garbage.

    BTW last time I checked, this was a nation of all Americans and not a nation of just white Christian Americans. If it was the latter, what do you say to those who fought for this country in several wars who happened not to be white Christians? Are they nothing?

  25. Slow your roll there FloridaResident. No one on here is twisting religion to hide their racism. This is simply a discussion of something that has been floating around for a while. If you read all of the posts above you will see that while none of us have said he is the antichrist or even said he is not for that matter.

    While most here agree that religion and government should not mix, if you rememeber your history lesson from school, then you should know that our country was founded on christian beliefs. Therefore, I personally would like whoever is going to run our country, (even if they are purple with pink polkadots), to atleast have Christian beliefs.

    As for your comment “what do you say to those who fought for this country in several wars who happened no to be white Christians? Are the nothing?”…No, they are not nothing, they were brave soldiers fighting for what they believed in and I am grateful to them. My question to you is, what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

  26. Obama quotes the Bible:

  27. Florida Resident. You should watch the video of Obama quotes the bible. He is about nothing on which this country was founded..One Nation Under GOD..
    Vote Mccain~~~~

  28. i am a citizen of vicksburg. i pay my taxes and i have my opinions on my town and its people. This site seems to cater to the Southern Baptist redneck mentality and there is obviously some heavy handed people here who believe in censorship. You can remove my posts from your blog but you cant stop me from taking my opinions to the streets.

    Heres what happens here. I express my viewpoints and they are deleted and censored. Thats the most american thing ive ever seen. Id be glad to meet face to face with anyone who wants to censor me.



  31. Is THIS what the public of Vicksburg believes? This is absolute LUNACY that John Tisdale believes Obama is the antichrist.

    Boredstiff, I believe this country was founded on the idea of TOLERANCE, tolerance for people who were escaping religious persecution.

    this is absurd, I can’t read anymore of this pro-McCain, pro-Bible, gargage…

  32. i believe this country was founded on the destruction of the native tribes. Escape from Religious persecution was but a part of the pilgrims plight. The pilgrims were outlaws looking for a place to drink their beer before it spoiled. check the history books and not the ones the teacher reads you in school.

  33. What I’d like someone to comment on, please, is this Dr. Tisdale’s comments about Muslims. In my understanding of the Bible, the words are divinely inspired and penned by men not written by the hand of God (as Islam believes the Koran was) so how can the writer have predicted the “anti-christ” would have a Muslim background when Islam and the Mohammad would not exist for a couple centuries? No man would have had any concept of Islam/Muslims.

    Also, why so much Muslim hating? Beside the fact that Jesus is a major, vastly important figure in Islam, most Muslims are exactly like most Christians i.e. hard working people who want to raise their families in peace. Islam/Christianity equally deal with the unfortunate fanatics that blow up buildings in New York and Oklahoma City.

    McCain and Obama both have garbage economic plans- which is far more important than their religious beliefs- so hopefully they know how to pick good advisers or we are gonna be in even more trouble.

  34. We don’t need a president that won’t put his hand on the Bible or salute our flag, but turns the other way. That is NOT what our country is!! It is IN GOD WE TRUST, just like it says on all of our money……

  35. Jenny, do a little research and you will find that “our” money that says “in god we trust” isnt really ours. Research the World banks. They put that smug little phrase on there too keep simple minded people like you in check.

    “ooh it says God on it so its a good thing”

    Do you think God made that money or agrees with the usage of it.

  36. you guys are horrible. you are basing your vote on a book thats not even true. you dont honestly believe that a man was swallowed by a whale and survived so that he could witness to people. or that a man was brought back from the dead by another man who would later “rise from death”. or that the entire world was flooded for 40 days and nights. where are the unicorns? the bible was a book written back when people were dumber than we are and because this book says theres an anti-christ, that you cant actually vote based on their agenda or policies? you guys should not have a right to vote because youre dumb and closed minded and youre wasting it based on a 2000 year old book that is good for morals but nothing else.

  37. jimithing4u, you, nor anyone else, can argue with this FACT: If everyone in the world lived according to the principles taught in the New Testament by Jesus Christ, there would be no crime, no hunger, and no need or desire for war. In short, we would all live in as near a “Garden of Eden” as is possible on this planet.

  38. From a sign i saw on the road:”What’s the difference between osama and obams? bs”.

  39. I just had to respond to this one.

    “If” he were the anti-Christ, which I do not believe because Obama says he believes that Jesus is the Christ…..that would mean “we” (Gospel believing Christians) would be all the more closer to seeing Him face to face. I can’t wait!!!!!!
    Daniel 2:21 says…
    And He changeth the times and the seasons: He removeth kings, and setteth up kings: He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

    I really don’t mean to sound combative, I really want to understand how “conservative” Christians can “proudly support McCain…He admitted cheating on his wife after she waited FAITHFULLY for him for 5 years while he was in a POW camp. While he was a POW, she was in an automobile accident that left her disabled. Later (while still married) he met his current wife (in Hawaii) and when he applied for a marriage license his divorce was one day short of being final. After years of being married to her, he “claims” he was unaware or noticed his wife’s addiction to narcotics when she was stealing from the very charitable organization that she was heading up. AND yes, they admitted to it, only AFTER they realized she was being investigated by the feds.

    To me Obama embodies in his political career what the Lord Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 25:34-40. Obamal in his political life has fought for the poor, underprivileged and less fortunate. Issues such as health care, affordable housing, renewable energy, lower taxes and lowering gas prices have always been a part of his agenda and not just because he is running for President. These are the issues that effect ALL Americans, regardless of your race, religion, creed or color. We should all remember that we should vote for the person that can best lead our country through these difficult times and issues.

    We are NOT voting for the fundamental high priest of America. Character, integrity, discernment, attitude, judgement and temperament should all be considered along with the issues when choosing between Obama and McCain. If and when this done, anyone would conclude that McCain fails miserably. I have worked with MANY individuals who did not share in totality my beliefs as a Christian however, they were of great character, values and integrity and could be counted on to do what is right. Having said that, I have not seen or heard anything on Obama that would make me question his integrity, character or values. It should really bother all Americans and especially Christians that because we have an educated young black man with good character, integrity, values and who speaks well and his given his life in service to the underprivileged…that there are idiots saying that he must be the anti-Christ. Is this racial prejudice or what

  40. Think about it…. if any TRUE believer REALLY thought that Obama was the anti-Christ, you would then vote FOR him…to usher in the Kingdom of Christ (I’m being sarcastic) ….do you really think that we will be capable of “voting” him in or out?
    Is it not our Father’s will?

    Mat 16:22
    Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

    Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

  41. I am still astounded that any educated American could consider voting for Obama. Billie Dias, forgive me for saying this, but you are about as ignorant as anyone I’ve ever come across. We are known by the company we keep. For Obama, that’s terrorist Bill Ayers, anti-American Rev. Wright, anti-white Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakan, members of the Chicago political machine, and members of the lunatic liberal left. Wake up, dude. Vote for REAL Christians who have the interest of the American people at heart: John McCain and Sarah Palin.

  42. You have demonstrated your ignorance by your comments above. If what you say is true, that we are known by the company that we keep, then John McCain is TRULY the biggest terrorist in the world for the company he has kept during his political career. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (just to name a few) are already known as the greatest terrorist and war-mongers that America has ever produced. I am sure you will disagree because you still believe that Iraq bombed the World Trade Center and was harboring weapons of mass destruction. You drank the kool-aid then, and seem to be drowning in it now. The Republican party has used ignorant Christian’s to get elected over the past decade and continues to smoke you “weak minded” like cheap cigars. You bring up no rational reason not to vote for Obama based on policy or issue. You continue to believe and propagate lies and deception. Please share with me one TRUE incident where Obama has endorsed any anti-white teachings of Farakan or anyone else. It has been well documented that Obama has condemned the radical teachings of his former pastor.

    I can easily discern that you were one of the “feeble-minded” who voted for George W. Bush. I am sure that it didn’t bother you that the Bush family has been keeping company with the Bin Ladens for YEARS. Why is it that that did not bother you? Since you seem to be one who will vote for someone simply because they call themself a “REAL Christian”, please share with me one piece of significant legislation that the Republicans have passed for “REAL Christian’s”during the Five years that they controlled the Oval Office , Senate, and the House during the Bush administration.

    It seems, Brad, that it is you who needs to wake-up, dude and recognize the wolves in sheep’s clothing that the Republican party has been giving you for years. In the words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ “not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven” (Matthew 7:21) I challenge you to go beyond the rhetoric and deception of the Republican party and find out for yourself about the truth about McCain and Obama. If and when you do, you will reach the same conclusion that this educated American, Bible believing Christian, and US Army veteran has reached….that Obama is the BEST choice to lead our nation.

  43. I stand corrected…I should have said “Bert” not Brad

  44. Here are a few facts concerning obama: 1)He said his grandmother has always been a christian.Yet she says her morning salat prayers daily. 2)obama is 50% caucasin,6.25% african black,and 43.75% arabic.Though his father was from kenya,he was 87.5% arabic. 3)obama’s kenyan cousin,Odinga,has created mass violence in kenya trying to overthrow the government.That hapened after he ran for president and lost.He wants sharia law in kenya,and has murdered many christians.Obama supported his cousin before the election process started here. 4)Obama said the islam call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset”. And i have a whole lists of lies he has told,but space does not permit.But they include him saying he passed 900 bills in the state senate-it was 26,he has no lobbyists–he has at least 47,and he says he was always against iraq–but he wasn’t in office when it started,and when elected to the senate voted to fund the war each time a bill for it came up.

  45. Billie, I’m an independent voter – neither Republican nor Democrat. And I think Bush’s presidency is the most disasterous since Abraham Lincoln’s. Yes, I voted for him, but only because I considered him the lesser of two evils. But McCain has denounced the Republican record under Bush, and he and Palin promise the type of change we need – to eliminate corruption, cut out wasteful spending, return government to its constitutional role – to serve the people – etc., even if they have to go after members of their own party. Obama has a proven record of – nothing! The man can hardly utter an intelligent word without his teleprompter. Because of his past association with criminals, terrorists, anti-American pastors, etc., how can we be expected to trust him? What poor judgement the man has! The McCains, and Sarah Palin, have more class in their stools than Obama and his entire family will ever have. They are not perfect by any means – Ron Paul is the only candidate who really understands what we must do to return our country to greatness. But McCain is a far more capable leader than Obama. I truly fear for the future of our country if Obama is elected. We’re in trouble now, but his election may mean the end of life as we have come to know it.

  46. see this is where you are all getting confused. i am the antichrist. ask my 5th grade teacher.

    “when theres no more room in Hell the dead will walk the Earth”.

  47. Bert,

    You obviously have not seen O’bama – (did you know he was Irish) on O’Reilly, the interview last Thursday.

    O’bama rocked, he was great without as you say his teleprompter.
    McCain is 72 yrs old & SENILE, he will probably have a STROKE soon and what will we (Republicans) have left the red-neck gov Palin from Alaska – animal killer – white trailer trash to run the US into the ground

    I am a Catholic / Republican voting for Obama.
    And there are many of us.
    As for the Anti-Christ – it is crap, however, if you Rt. wing extermists believe the Bible that this will happen – then it has been pre-determined.

    Obama is NOT the anti-christ. Just because he has different views – you fear him & hate him.

    GOD loves OBAMA, God loves us all.


    OBAMA / BIDEN 2008

  48. GOD loves Obama!

  49. I suspect the opposite – God watched Obama sit in that hate-filled church of “Rev.” Wrights for 20 years and decided Obama will go straight to hell. Texas will go for McCain/Palin because there are more smart Texans than dumbass Texans – and there’s nothing you can do about it, “Native Texan.”

  50. Never under estimate the power of a smart woman.Red neck or not…

  51. Bert, you claim that McCain has “denounced the Republican party” and with that the horrible actions of the Bush administration, yet he has voted along party lines, with the Bush administration over 90% of the time over the last eight years. This can hardly be interpreted by any resonable person as some “maverick” or agent of change.

    You also claim that Obama “can hardly utter an intelligent word without his tele-prompter” which concedes that Obama sounds intelligent while giving his speeches. What then must you think of McCain who continually sounds like a blubbering idiot with or without a tele-prompter? I suggest you also look into the school record of both Obama and McCain since intellect seems to be your primary fault now with Obama. The facts will clearly show that Obama has a much more stellar record in this field graduating top of his class at Harvard Law School . The facts will also show that McCain was in the bottom 5% at the US Naval academy…be honest, Bert…who is TRULY smarter?
    I also see now that you are condemning Obama to hell for sitting in a church service which he has since denounced. Based on your reasoning, I would like to know what you condemn McCain to when you consider the following:
    God also saw McCain committing adultery several times.
    God also saw McCain leave his crippled, faithful wife. God also sees the McCain beer distributing business which I’m sure has led to many addictions and broken homes.

    I myself cannot say whether McCain or Obama is “going straight to hell” Only our God knows the true heart.
    As for me, I would never have the audacity to judge or condemn someone in regards to their salvation.
    Once again, Bert, you show your hatred and racial prejudice, which are the real reason you hate Obama so much.
    I have always had a high regard for the great state of Texas and it’s wonderful open-minded, gracious, intelligent people. so I will not allow your ridiculous comments to sway my opinion. However I must conclude that you must have moved to Texas…a transplant…. maybe from Utah?

  52. I have to agree with Bert. Obama sat in that church for 20 years and of course after the Rev Wright revaltion “God Damn America” what else was Obamam suppose to do. He had to denounce him but much too late in my opinion.He may have been top in his class but that does not make him capable of running this country in this time of great peril. I would much prefer a War hero who loves his country , believes in God. and stood up for the troops now fighting.. Obama is morally corupt and lacks a stong constitution…
    behind every good man is a good woman and that woman is Sarah Palin not Mrs. Obama who for the first time was finally proud of her country. Give me a break..
    You have to look at the issue and what Obama stands for. Not Americans..
    Obama was also wrong about the Surge, thanks to Fox news Bill Oreily, he had to admit it was a success.Can not wait to see more of that interview. and his fumblings…

  53. JP, in your eagerness to associate yourself with Bert and McCain you have only substantiated the case on why Obama should be President
    You start off with the Rev. Wright allegations, stating that he denounced him “too late”. I have sat in church after church across this great country over the past thirty years and heard many of preacher damn America. Whether it was Clinton, public education, abortion or a myriad of other issues I have heard them proclaim damnation on our country. So having a preacher act in such a way is nothing new in this county. The only question here should be Obama’s response to such nonsense. And as you say he has denounced it.

    You go on to agree with me that Obama is intelligent and graduated “top in his class “. You say that this does not make Obama capable of running this country. I would agree with that, however a person who graduates “top in his class”, I’m sure you would agree, is much more capable than a person who graduated in the bottom 5 percent.

    You go on to say that you would prefer someone who “loves his country, believes in God and stood up for the troops now fighting.” All of these things Obama has proven and personifies.

    Shockingly you go on to say that Obama is “morally corrupt” without producing ANY evidence or justification for this claim. I am not aware of any moral corruption that can be found in Obama. However everyone is aware of McCains adultery and infidelities and how he left his crippled wife for his current one. We are also all aware of Mrs. McCain’s drug addition and how she stole from her own children’s charity to feed her own habit. Now you tell me, JP, who is morally corrupt?

    I agree with you that behind every good man is a good woman. And after experiencing the Bush administration over the past eight years, I agree that any woman in this country could do a better job….including Sarah Palin. However, this is not about putting in someone as President who is just “better” than Bush. We as Americans should want the best that this country has to offer…. which is Obama. Believe me when I say I have considered all the issues and completely looked into what both Obama and McCain stand for. Once any intelligent person unbiasaly and without prejudice does this he or she will reach the same conclusion that I have… that Obama is a much better choice than McCain.

    You end your comments stating that Obama “was also wrong about the surge” and “he had to admit it was a success”. It is evident that you have not done your homework or research on this issue. Obama has been against the war from the beginning. However, once it was apparent that the US was sending troops to Iraq Obama was addamant in supporting, then General Eric Shinseki, who disagreed with Bush, Rumsfeld and McCain on the original “surge” of troops that they were sending into Iraq. General Shinseki and Obama felt that the U.S should send in many more troops to deal with the situation. Bush, Rumsfeld and McCain disagreed with General Shinseki and Obama. Of course, we now all know that General Shinseki and Obama were correct and that Bush, Rumsfeld and McCain finally saw what Obama had seen all along …that more troops were needed and they eventually sent the additional “surge” which was proven effective. It is amazing that Obama could recognize this from the start and McCain, with all his so called experience, totally got it wrong. Just another reason why Obama is much more qualified to be our next President.
    Check out the New York Times article entitled “New Strategy Vindicates Ex-Army Chief Shinseki” published on January 12, 1007.

  54. correction…dated January 12, 2007

  55. One cannot argue with a d..n fool, especially one who reads and believes the New York Times. Billie, vote for Osama. I’ll vote for the real man, McCain. Peace.

    • Hey buddy, You better watch your mouth! She may be a crazy liberal but she’s MY Crazy Liberal! Crazy liberals need love too brother. If you knew her you’d think she was a sweetheart. You ain’t bustin’ her O’bama bubble. She really has done her homework.

      Constitution Party voter. Although most people seem to think the Constitution is a fairytale nowadays.

  56. you are wrong again, Bert…one can argue with a fool but what one cannot argue with is the TRUTH. You go ahead and vote for the “real man” I will vote for the “BEST MAN”….OBAMA all the way!!!!

    PS…the Truth can still set you free.

  57. I am voting for McCain and Palin.One can argue the fact that many people graduate at the top of the classs. Doctors, lawyers what have you. This does not mean they are all capable.!!!!.

  58. I am a 50-year-old, white, married, midwestern born and raised, mother of two who goes to a Presbyterian church every Sunday. I am voting for Barack Obama. In years past, my votes have typically been more against one than for the other. But this year I am very much voting FOR Sen Obama. He speaks clearly and truthfully about the direction our country needs to turn. Sen McCain would be a war president. War is all he knows and all he is interested in, and that is where he would lead us. We deserve better. My children deserve better. Gov Palin is simply a distraction, and not to be taken seriously. McCain is hiding behind her like the “mama’s boy” that he is. God bless the USA, and every other country too. God made and loves us all.

  59. This is a damn smear as bad as it gets. The Republican base are a bunch of hypocrits. They can cry over a harmless joke about “lipstick on a pig” but we have right wing nuts emailing that Obama is the Anti-Christ? There is something seriously wrong with you. You can defend it anyway you want but wrong is wrong. If you really believe this dribble you should have your head examined.
    It is true there is a fundemental difference on where to take this country. We can have four more years of the same economics and talk the ‘McSame/Flip-Flop Palin’ way or we can another direction with someone who is honest and smart enough to lead us there. Senator Obama is not perfect but who is? Certainly not John McCain. I think Obama will be much more towards the center than many of you think.

    Say No To John McSame 08′

  60. I’ve been reading all these comments and wondered “who did these people vote for in the primaries leading up to the selection for each party? Is it possible that some of these people didn’t bother to vote because “they were too busy then and hadn’t decided yet”? If they voted in the primaries, then maybe there would have been other choices for President besides McCain or Obama. I’m writing in my vote because I refuse to vote for either one of my current choices. It won’t count, except that neither one running will get my vote and I still get to vote my choice.

  61. This commercial was done by a local kid named Joe Cook in Coleman , TX . (SW of DFW near Brownwood ). * You have to watch the whole thing. * When he finishes talking and walks away, you get a sense of how this could be the commercial of the campaign season.

  62. More info you should know….

    Anyone want to compare the Vice Presidents?

    I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

    I have been “stiffed” three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

    Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

    I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter Fred Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.

    Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

    Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it firsthand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.

    I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

    Best Regards,

    Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
    BDR Associates, LLC
    2401 Research Boulevard, Suite 101
    Rockville, MD 20850

    Work – (240) 631-1981
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    Fax – (240) 631-2778
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  63. RM’s video is greatly appreciated, as is the service of the young man featured. I only wish Sen McCain would support efforts to provide him the medical and educational services he deserves. He has voted against them every time. You can look it up. Sen John “there will be more wars” McCain has other ideas for spending that money, sadly. Vote Obama. He supports vets.

  64. Thanks for the post, RM. I knew Obama wasn’t to be trusted, but I was unaware of Biden’s dishonesty. Another good reason to vote McCain/Palin ’08.


    Please take a look at a few of the videos on the site above. From the horse’s mouth…

  66. Palin demolishes the windy waffle:

  67. McCain on our military future…

  68. If you, DOCTOR Tisdale, want to go one-on-one in disecting the Bible or Revelations in particular, there are many of us who would love to take you & the rest of the “prophets” listed here! Perhaps Revelations 13 is speaking of the leader we have at this time . . . George Bush!!!! NOT Obama! Just take a good look at what Bush has done for this country. Do you think he is EVIL??? I DO and so does my husband, who is, in fact, a Veteran of the VietNam War; he lived that hell for 19 months. (Being a prisoner of war doesn’t make you a President.) I listened to the the same news program Tisdale refers to and he “twisted” the truth from Obama’s mouth AGAIN!!! Obama said “we are no longer’ONLY’a Christian nation, we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists. I have the program taped so I’m wondering . . . perhap you are the Evil we should be concerned with in Revelations 13! Perhaps the Anti-Christ spreading false hope and false statements??? Your comments about Untruths and the slandering of a good, decent man frighten me as much as a McCain/Palin ticket.

    The gentleman who thinks Biden is a liar and a cheat and was raised with such high morals & believes in them and good character should perhaps look at McCain in just this past week . . . “Our Economy is strong”, then he’s “for the government taking over the financial institutions”, then he’s “not for the government taking over”! Confused? Me,too!!! And your morals, character and religion on another issue . . . where do they stand on adultry? Find out why Sarah Palin was named in a divorce decree between her husband’s business partner and his wife! She was sleeping with her husband’s partner!!! All politicians have “something” in their closets, just like the rest of us! NO ONE is GOD BUT GOD!! You just have to weed out the ignorance and stupidity!

    Sarah Palin is a FARCE; she knows nothing and she IS a LIAR and it is an extremely frightening prospect that she could possibly be our President soon! I will leave this country if that happens! When asked about the “Surge” she had answered (before she was named VP) that “Oh yes, she had read about it in the “Alaska Monthy” and thought it was going well!!! WOW, I sure want her runing my country! She was hidden from the media until they could “hammer” her with the correct memorized answers and yet she still had the “deer in the headlight look” throughout Mr. Gibson’s interview.

    Mr. Obama is such a gentleman, he won’t discuss her family! I’m proud of him for that. However, it’s okay for them and you, Mr. Tisdale, to attack Obama and his family by calling them the Anti-Christs! Strange how that works.

    I don’t have to worry about upsetting all women if I discuss ONE woman – Palin!!! Just because there’s one bad apple, doesn’t mean we’re all bad! WHY was her daughter isolated and kept at home for 5 months with “Mono” prior to the birth of the innocent child with Down’s Syndrome? Why didn’t Sarah’s closest friends know she was pregnant with that child? Too many things I think we SHOULD be able to discuss about her are taboo!! I’m also concerned that if I am raped or a victim of incest, she does NOT believe I have the right to have an abortion! The “right-winged” conservative white women without educations, degrees and very little intelligence are the ones who think she is a hot ticket! Looking good and being able to run this country is two different things. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges!

    Dr. Tisdale, John McCain and Sarah Palin scare the living daylights out of me!!!!! (By the way, there is NOTHING in Revelations about the Anti-Christ being a Muslim! What version of the Bible are you reading? Please stop frightening people into believing your radical beliefs before you scare all the good, honest people in the USA out of their skin. Our economy, the war in Iraq and our reputation around the world scares me more than Obama being the “monster” described in Revelations 13! We’re already living under that monster with the Republicans & George W. running this country. George W. has seen to that! McCain and Palin will continue being the monster. Sarah is George Bush in a dress!)

  69. zelda, really?

    What should concern you is the impact Obamas foreign policy will have on all of us.

    Everything else pales when compared to our National Security. Obama wants to go back to the Clinton/Carter mentality of giving in, reducing the military and appeasement. It is that approach that led us to 9/11 and the war on terror.

    Zelda, they declared war on us and will not stop until we lose. Our options, if we want to survive, do not include caving in to them.

    All the other issues facing our nation will mean nothing if our nation is continually attacked by those who mean us harm. Going to work, or the grocery store will then include getting a military escort. Do you really want that kind of life in America?

    If you do then vote for Obama because that is exactly where his policies will lead us. I am not a big fan of McCain, but I believe he will do the basic duty of his job and protect America.

    The real shame is those are our only two real choices.

  70. 1st: I have never read anything in Revelations that states “the beast” would be allowed to have authority for 42 months. But let’s say it does say this, does that mean that every president who has or will hold office for a four-year term is the anti-Christ? Or, just Barack Obama?

    2nd: I have also never read anywhere in the Bible that the anti-Christ would be of Muslim descent. The Anti-Christ is symbolic of every belief, thought, spirit, and action that denies the deity, reign and authority of God. Read the book of 1John to understand this, but I will list a few scriptures from it for your understanding now:

    1 John 2:18-23 ~

    “18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”

    1John 4:2,3

    “2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”

    So, this email is false doctrine, written by someone who obviously has not read the Bible concerning the Antichrist, because indeed the Antichrist is already in the earth and has been since the time of Jesus. It is not any one person, it is the rejection of Jesus as the Messiah, and his divine authority. It is not only in the world, but in the church as well, many leaders have claimed to be Christians but hate others, they have spoken out against Barack Obama for no other reason than the fact that he is black, when in fact the word of God teaches in Galatians 3:27-29 “27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” And also God says if you do not love your brother which you can see, you cannot possibly love Him, whom you cannot see. This hatred and false doctrine is the very spirit of the Anti-Christ.

    3rd: This is NOT A Christian Nation. It was established under Christian doctrine, in fact all of our laws our based upon the foundation of biblical principles. But, tell me how can it be legalized for homosexuals to wed if this is a Christian Nation? Tell me how it can be legal and accepted for people to practice any religion they choose, including the Satanic Church and other such denominations if this is a Christian Nation? Tell me how it would be legal for business executives to make decisions that place the country in an economic crisis, yet walk away with million dollar severance packages, worry free, leaving those who have invested and the tax payers to bear the weight of those decisions if this is a Christian Nation? NO, this is not a Christian Nation, because Christian means to be Christ-Like, and in order for this Nation to be a Christian Nation, the entire nation would be have to be Christ Like. However, this is a nation of many religions, many beliefs and doctrines, many cultures, many people, truly a nation of many countries and communities thriving together to achieve what I believe is one goal, and that is success, individual successes that permeate our families, our friends, neighbors, communities, states, and the country as a whole. That is what makes us unique as a country. We have a government that has in place legislation to ensure that the Separation of Church & State is maintained in all aspects of government, both on the state and federal level, we are definitely Not a Christian Nation. But thank God we happen to be a country whose citizens are predominantly Christian.

    Finally, Barack Hussein Obama, is first a man. It so happens that his father is African, so he naturally has more pigment then some others. It is not comfortable for many to see him in the light of President, since for so long African-Americans have been considered Less Than Equal, even Less Than Equal was a position our ancestors fought for, because before becoming Less Than Equal, we were fighting to be recognized as Human Beings, by a country and government who determined that African Americans or Blacks or Coloreds, were only 3/4 human, something to be bought and sold and bred like cattle; the pride of our men stripped from them as they were made to remain in the place of a “boy”, and the virtue of our women ravaged, as they were made to nurse the children of historic white America, turn over their treasure upon the breach of adolescence to white men, who then ripped the children they fathered from their arms to pass them through the system of trade; a people who were only useful for building up this country on their backs but not have access to any of its wealth. A people who were legally kept from education and resources to better themselves. A people who were torn from their families and never allowed to establish a foundation of faith and wealth and impart that to our children; the results of which still remain today.

    Do I believe that Barack Hussein Obama is a perfect man? No. I do not. But I certainly do not believe he is the Anti-Christ. His name alone has meaning, His first Name: Barack, is Swahili for Blessing or Blessing from God. His middle name, which was given after his grandfather, means “Handsome”. As far as his last name, it is a common surname of the Luo tribe, one of the 3 major tribes of Kenya. I tell you it would not matter if his name were John Alexander Smith, the fact remains that he is a black man; and for some, that is enough to be declared a terrorist, that is enough to be declared incapable, that is enough to be defined as inexperienced, that is enough to be considered unequal, and that is enough to be falsely accused of being the Antichrist; when truly, it is under the spirit of the Antichrist that the very email referenced was written.

  71. Current Rumor…..Keep your ears open for this one.

    On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing
    health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to
    occur after the VP debate on 10/2.

    there have been talks all weekend about how to proceed with this info.
    generally, the feeling is that we should all go ahead and get it out there to
    as many blog sites and personal email lists as is possible. i have already
    seen a few short blurbs about this – the “health problem” cited in those
    articles was aneurysm. probably many of you have heard the same rumblings.

    however, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like
    this obama strategy will be a go. therefore, it seems that the best
    strategy is to get out in front of this obama maneuver, spell it out in
    and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is.

  72. Read the book The Bible, this description of the anti-Christ does not appear in Revelation or anywhere else in The Bible. WAKE UP! They are lying about The Bible to try to scare you into voting to further their political agenda. Bush/Rove playbook. Vote based on the issues, not based on lies.

  73. The Bible has many references to the Antichrist as “the man of sin”, “the son of perdition” (II Thessalonians 2:3), “the beast” (Revelation 11:7; 13: 1-18), “abomination of desolation” (Daniel 7: 7,8, 19-26; St. Matthew 24: 15), the Antichrist (I St. John 2: 18), a prince of the people who will destroy Jerusalem and the Temple (Daniel 9: 26, 27). None give his political affiliation or his specific religious preference other than he will be an indwelt minion of Satan. The readings seem to point to a European or someone who is in charge of a former vestige of the Roman Empire (re: Daniel 26, 27).

  74. email me this verse in revelations, i cannot find it.
    muslim will be the antichrists, 40’s?

  75. I have very strong feelings against these type of propaganda. To me it isn’t Christian at all. It stems from my being Catholic. Thirty years ago I had Baptist friends that tried to convince me that the Anti Christ was going to be the Pope. They were so certain. These comments were disturbing and cruel. So now the finger is pointed at Obama. I feel sorry for the guy because I know what this feels like. The Bible reads that we will not know the time, place or who. So where does our faith fit into this? Fear is an evil thing and to me, Christians are spreading it around the internet like its no big deal. It is a big deal and its wrong. If Obama is the Anti Christ, then we should all be rejoicing because the end is near. So what is this all about other than a modern day witch hunt? This type of propaganda gives power to the sick minds that are wanting good people to promote their evilness into assassinating this guy. So here Is my message to everyone that has passed an email along or spoke about Obama as the Anti Christ. You are in a small way responsible, for his death if it should happen, you have helped give power to an evil of hate. This is NOT Christian, this is NOT how Christ would have us believe and represent His love. I try to understand that we are all different, I just can’t let things like this happen and say nothing. I will not be part of the crowd that throws the first stone. So continue to throw your stones you false Christians, your actions and words prove who you are.

  76. I’ve heard this before and it does make sense but I don’t want to forward the message without more on who John Tisdale ishat is his back ground.

  77. This is complete ignorance.

  78. This post is downright laughable … completely ignorant and ill-informed.

    In fact, your post is being widely emailed and linked to because it is so far-fetched and idiotic. Instead of proving your point, you are proving how ignorant and gullible you and your peers are.

    Thanks for the laugh.

  79. Jay and soNotcool: What’s laughable is that instead of offering us information, you offer invective. In place of wisdom, you offer, as it were, only wind. If you are laughing at these posts, you ought to consider that yours are equally laughable in that you dismiss without argument, whether rightly or wrongly, the positions taken by these contributors, which no doubt reflects either your jaded prejudices concerning Christianity, or your abject ignorance of the subject at hand. Constructive criticism requires of the respondent not only a comment but an explanation of why that which has been presented is wrong, otherwise one is “just blowing smoke”.

  80. Maybe Bush is the “anti-christ”

    On March 27, 2008 at 4:15 pm the Rev. Bryan Dabney Said:
    Where are the WMDs which the president said were in Iraq and that precipitated the invasion of that country?

    Where is the direct link that Saddamm Hussein was involved in the 9/11 plot?

    What constitutes “victory” in this conflict?

    And the bottom line?

    4,0000 dead to date, 20,0000 plus maimed, 1.6 trillion dollars in cost and counting, potential for an even wider conflict in the Middle East with Iran which is another Pandora’s Box altogether.

    The president declared “mission accomplished” some years ago. Unfortunately the words of another commander comes to mind: “Another such victory as this and I am undone.” Pyrrhus of Epirus c. 275 B.C.”

  81. Well said Rev.Dabney…I agree. History will clearly show that the Bush Presidency was the most disastrous in our nations history…Furthermore, in the eight years that Bush was in office, five of which the Republicans controlled the House and the Senate, what significant piece of pro- Christian legislation did they pass? The Republician party has been using and abusing “Christians” for decades to get their candidate elected. This is clear in McCain’s choice as his vice President running mate. Do you really think that she is the second most qualified & experienced person in the Republican party? His ONLY reason in choosing her was to “use and abuse” Christians and deceive them into voting for himself. Once again the Republican party is trying to fool and deceive Christians into thinking that they are the party of “Christian family values”.

  82. After witnessing this so called “Christian” president for over the last 8 years, how DARE anyone suggest that Obama is the anti-Christ? It was only a mere 4 years ago that Christian’s were falling all over themselves to vote for the Christian, George W. Bush. Now between Obama and Bush…which of the two look more like the anti-Christ? Some of us Christian’s who did not “drink the kool-aid” sounded the warning 8 years ago on why George W. Bush was not the best choice to led our country. We base this most important decision on who to elect to lead our county on more than whether someone says that he or she is a Christian or not or whether they proclaim to hate homosexuals and same sex marriage. We understand that we are not voting for the “high priest” of America

  83. This website saddens me deeply. I cannot imagine Jesus Christ having anything to do with the racist sentiments being espoused in his name. The Jesus I know from scripture would have no qualms walking into your sanctuaries and calling you out. You are looking and acting like not all, but too many German Christians, looked and acted in the early 1900’s. Hitler embodied their racism–he did not create it. Please, please look to your souls, and find truth, not hate.

  84. After witnessing this so called “Christian” president for over the last 8 years, how DARE anyone suggest that Obama is the anti-Christ? It was only a mere 4 years ago that Christians were falling all over themselves to vote for the Christian, George W. Bush. Now between Obama and Bush…which of the two look more like the anti-Christ?
    This election should be more about the issues and polices that are important, and affect the vast majority of Americans regardless of their religion, race, creed or color. Issues like the economy, health care, the energy crisis, the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan the record high employment, corporate greed & corruption, education, transparency, government accountability, etc. etc., etc. These are the kinds of issues that need to be investigated thoroughly and not determined by a pastor, Fox News sound bites, Bill O’Reillys monologues, or Rush Limbaugh’s tirades.
    Someone once said that the definition of insanity is: trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We cannot have another four more years of the same type of policy and direction and expect to clean up this mess that our country is in.
    Let’s all try to avoid the political pit falls of most Christian’s in taking the Republician bait “hook, line and sinker” and let’s not fall prey to the media or campaign spin doctor’s.

  85. The problem with American politics is that most US citizens will allow themselves to be polarized by the parties and will turn what should be a detailed discussion on the plethora of issues into single, usually irrelevant. Inconsequential debates on meaningless garbage like lipstick, lapels, middles names or which one is the ant-Christ…Christians are especially susceptible to this.
    Early on in the Bush Presidency, I decided that I would do all that I could to prevent such a disaster from happening again. I would no longer allow this most important decision to turn into a Christian American Idol contest or a matter of simply choosing what I thought was the Christian “lesser of two evils” scenario. High sight being twenty-twenty, we can all see clearly now devastating to this country such shallow thinking can be.
    Let’s together teach ourselves and the next generation of Americans, what the Bush Presidency has so vividly taught all of us about most so called “Christian” Politicians…you can tell when they are lying when their lips are moving.

  86. Billie, no doubt I agree that the Republican Party has used Christians just as the Democrats use their various special interest groups to further their own purposes.

    Unfortunately, we have two parties that hold few virtues and a host of vices.

  87. Rev. Dabney, Thank you for agreeing with me in the Republicans’ party continual use and abuse of Christians over the past several election cycles. I must however disagree with your inference that only the Democratic Party is subject to accommodating special interest groups to further their own purposes. Whether it is the NRA, the Chamber of Commerce, the Retail Merchants Association, the American Banker Associatation, the oil companies, the Tobacco Growers Association, Halliburton, etc, etc, etc…..the Republican party has just as many, if not even more special interest groups which they have helped and catered to for many decades. The point that I am trying to make is the continual attempt by the Republican Party to claim God, faith, and Christian family values as being items that they, and they ALONE, want to promote and protect. Sadly, millions of Christians across our country have “drank the kool-aid” of propaganda and feel that in order to please God they need to vote Republican only and that somehow to vote Democrat is voting against their God, faith and Christian family values.
    I find this to be not only abominable but also extremely pharisaical and dangerous.

  88. Billie, Christian values are Christian because we hold those things which the Bible teaches as truth, for they are God’s word to us. We are supposed to order our lives around them, not them around our lives.

    While no party has the proverbial “lock” on representing these values, the national platforms for both parties can give an indication about where they stand (as well as their actions while in power) regarding Christian values.

    These are just a few of the values which many Christians hold:
    1. The sanctity of life: abortion is the systematic murder of the unborn.
    2. The institution of marriage: God ordained that marriage is between a man and woman.
    3. Private property rights: This encompasses a number of issues from owning and carrying arms for self-defense to taxes and land use matters.
    4. Free speech matters: particularly in being able to proclaim the gospel whether it is a Christmas display or the right of ministers to freely communicate to their congregations concerning the sufficiency of a candidate or slate of candidates for public office.
    5. Social concerns: The Bible is clear, he that would not work should not eat. Justice ought to be meeted out impartially. Those who murder willfully should be executed. Churches and families must care for their own.

    If you can match a party up with these or visa versa, then I suppose that would answer your point.

  89. Rev. Dabney, a Bible believing Christian should obtain their “family values” through the Word of God as the Holy Spirit speaks to them or convicts them of various matters. Which again emphasizes my point that “Christian family values” is a personal matter between an individual and his or her God, faith and beliefs. It does not belong to any party or a particular “platform”. Why is it that you and so many other Christians seem to desire spiritual guidance and leadership from the Republican Party and their platform? Since when has our election turned into a vote for the high priest of America? “As for me and my house” we will continue to turn to our God and His Word for our spiritual leadership. However when it comes to voting for a man to lead our country, we will base our decision on the individuals knowledge, character, integrity, decrement, attitude, judgment, and temperament and who also has a better plan on the issues that really matter in governing a country i.e. economy, health care, cost of living, the energy crisis, the record high employment, true tax relief , wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, corporate greed and corruption , education , transparency in government, bringing back American jobs, infrastructure, government accountability, etc., etc., etc. These are the issues that affect all Americans regardless of your race, religion, creed or color. We need to vote for the person that can best lead our country through these difficult times and issues…I believe that this person is Barack Obama
    I again remind you that we are not voting for the high priest of America and should not look to ANY one party or person for our spiritual leadership…let’s leave the spiritual part to God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Let’s also leave the judgment and condemnation of people and their sin to the Lord.

  90. Correction…

    However when it comes to voting for a man to lead our country, we will base our decision on the individuals knowledge, character, integrity, DISCERNMENT, attitude, judgment, and temperament…

  91. Billie, where did I ever say I was a Republican? I simply gave you the particulars of a proper biblical understanding of issues which happens to include some of what might be in the GOP’s platform (though I must confess I have not read it).

    The Bible should be the rule and guide of a Christian’s faith and practice. It is not a book that is open to private interpretation. It speaks very well on its own if people will read and heed it.

    I agree with you, we are not voting for an American high priest. But I do believe we ought to elect a man or a woman who possesses a high moral character and a set of values with which a voter could identify. That’s fair.

    But we have gotten off track with this thread. My previous posts are sufficient for discussion on this issue.

  92. Rev. Dabney, thank you, it appears that we agree once again. If we were voting for the candidate based solely on “high moral character & values” then Barack Obama would win this election hands down. May I remind you that it was John McCain who admitted cheating on his wife after she waited FAITHFULLY for him for 5 years while he was in a POW camp. While he was a POW, she was in an automobile accident that left her disfigured. Later (while still married) he met his current wife (in Hawaii) and when he applied for a marriage license his divorce was one day short of being final. After years of being married to her, he “claims” he was unaware or noticed his wife’s addiction to narcotics when she was stealing from the very charity organization that she was heading up. AND yes, they admiited to it, only AFTER they realized she was being investigated by the feds. Need I mention the fact that his family owns a beer distribution company… from which they have made hundreds of millions of dollars and no doubt have destroyed millions of lives and families?

  93. In my post on Oct. 6th, wherein I listed those things on which I stand, such clearly puts me outside of the Obama camp. While I do not believe he is the Antichrist (which is the subject of this thread) I nevertheless see him as supporting much of what I cannot, while being against much of which I listed.

  94. Does it matter if a person is a Christian if he is running for President? (This is not an Obama/McCain issue, just a general question). If you believe a person is of sound character, intelligent, qualified, morally sound, fair-minded, etc. but does not have a personal belief in Christianity does this disqualify that person? Obviously I don’t mean legally as there is no requirement regarding a persons spiritual views. Historically there are many examples of Presidents who were not “Christian” in the modern sense

    Washington – Deist

    Jefferson – a quote from him “But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg . . . . Reason and free inquiry are the only effectual agents against error.”

    James Madison, a quote “During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”

    I’m not trying to suggest these viewpoints are correct, just that they are part of the historical record. It seems that, in centuries past, a person religious beliefs were relatively insignificant in regards to being elected President. My sense is that is different today. Is it? Given the choice between someone who is a Christian, but you believe to be intellectually inferior, of doubtful integrity and questionable ethics would you chose him over someone whom you believe to be supremely qualified but stated clearly that he does not believe in a deity? Or specifically in Jesus?

  95. Ron, GREAT questions! I am PROUDLY a Bible believing Christian. I believe in separation of church and state. As stated in my comments above, I hate that this most important decision to turn into a “Christian American Idol” contest.
    ” Given the choice between someone who is a Christian, but you believe to be intellectually inferior, of doubtful integrity and questionable ethics would you chose him over someone whom you believe to be supremely qualified but stated clearly that he does not believe in a deity? Or specifically in Jesus?”
    I’d go for the one who I found to be “supremely qualified but stated clearly that he does not believe in a deity? Or specifically in Jesus?”
    Again….we are not voting for the high priest of America.

  96. Rev. Dabney, I’d LOVE to discuss with you why I, as a Bible believing Christian, think Obama is the better “Christian” candidate based of the 5 points you listed above. Is there a “thread” or “place” where you and I could share thoughts? Or would you consider continuing our discussion here?

    With all respect…Billie

  97. If anyone had read Obama’s book he said in it that if things started going toward Muslim then he’d join them. Or words to that effect. Why would anyone want to be run by Muslims who dislike us?

  98. This e-mail was sent to someone i know and they sent back that nowhere in the bible does it say that the antichrist is muslim or in his forties. I was wondering if you knew exactly where it says taht so i could let them know. Thanks

  99. Judy…if you listened to the news tonight it showed John McCain addressing this very issue and..(are you sitting?) McCain actually said “OBAMA IS A DECENT, FAMILY MAN” and that “YOU SHOULD NOT BE SCARED OF HIM IF HE WERE TO BECOME PRESIDENT”. It seems that even John McCain himself is no longer willing to continue these blatant lies about Obama being a Muslim, terrorist or untrustworthy and that the only ones who continue to spread such hateful, racial untruths is Fox News, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.
    Also…straight from the AP…ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain’s Republican ticket.

    It seems to me that Sarah Palin is just more of the same “politics as usual”.

  100. Billie, you cannot trust Obama, CNN, NBC, etc. They have lied and schemed in every way possible to hide Osama’s faults and glorify him otherwise. Fox News, Rush, Hannity, etc., are the only people who give fair coverage. O’Reilly has bent over backwards to give Osama every benefit. As far as Sarah… Go, Sarah, Go!

  101. The comment above has proven my point. I’m sure he or she still feels that we should trust Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain…and….Palin. This is the same type of nonsense that we have heard from the Republican Party over the last decade. When their candidate of choice is losing they immediately attempt to smear the opponent, lie about anything and everything and question their opponent’s patriotism. Our country deserves so much better than this. Obama all the way!!

  102. Hopefully there are few nuts like you, Billie, in the American public, though I fear otherwise. Between the bias of the media and the left wingers in the American school system, the public has been brainwashed and dumbed-down to a level that makes Democrats estatic. Socialism such as they and Obama have espoused will ultimately destroy our democracy. You are a perfect example of the average miseducated dumbbell who just may vote our country away.

  103. lol “there you go again”…in your typical Republican manner, once you are beaten and have no logical explanations, like a dog returning to his vomit, you return to your lies and sleazy name calling. The only “miseducated dumbbell” that I have seen in this election has been your party’s choice for Vice President which is another reason why millions of us smart Americans would never vote for a McCain/Palin ticket.
    For you and the rest of the idiots who only seem to get your education from Fox News here’s a news flash: our democracy has already been “ultimately destroyed” because of your party’s boy…George Bush, who history will prove was the worst President ever. Although many have been fooled by your lies and deception in past elections we true Americans wised up to your game and will no longer believe the hatred and doomsday rhetoric that flows like diarrhea from your mouth. We are extremely wise and educated and recognize desperation a mile off. It is McCain/Palin who are brainwashing the weak minded and serving the Kool-aid to the prejudice, bigoted, hatemonger’s like yourself…..and you are not only drinking it, but drowning in it. You would have to be a VERY shallow and ignorant person to believe that Obama is an Arab, Muslim, Terrorist, the anti-Christ and that our country is headed for a cataclysmic disaster if Obama is elected President…so to all you lame-brain country haters, please start packing your bags now and leave for Alaska so you can join Palin’s husband in trying to succced from these United States.
    Because of intelligent, level-headed, unbiased, REAL Christians who love our country, like ourselves, Obama will win this election and we will all be better off for it
    Ps..send me a postcard from Alaska.

  104. It’s “secede,” not “succced.” “Miseducated dumbbell” may be a bit too kind.

  105. I know from reading your post that you are not very bright or educated however I must give you credit for catching my spelling error as I did not have an opportunity to run my spell check as I was rushing off to church this morning. I wonder did you catch it all on your own or did someone else have to help you?

    I know from reading your post that you are not very bright or educated however I must give you credit for catching my spelling error as I did not have an opportunity to run my spell check as I was rushing off to church this morning. I wonder did you catch it all on your own or did someone else have to help you?
    But if this is the best that you can come back with…you are out of your league and need to stay in “kiddie-pool”…I wouldn’t want to hurt you any more with the truth and the facts.
    PS I will await your postcard from Alaska

  106. I repeated it twice so you have time to really understand and truly comprehend….kind of like talking real slow.

  107. Sure, you did…

    BTW – I don’t need a spell checker.

  108. Wow. It’s hard to know where to begin with a post such as this. First, you believe in things like “Christs” and “Anti-christs”. Yeah.

    Next, you believe that a guy named Barack Obama is the “Anti-christ”– by which I assume you mean that he is the one person described in a book composed over 2000 years ago who will bring about the end of the world.

    Get. A. Grip.

    I get that you don’t care for the guy’s politics– really. I don’t care for the politics of John McCain. I do not, however, therefore equate John McCain with being responsible for the end of the world. What happened to espousing a moderate, well-informed worldview based on facts? Just say you don’t like the guy & what he stands for and go cast your vote for the other one. Done.

    This rush to embrace extreme viewpoints is hurting us as a nation. We need someone in the executive branch who can start bringing us together– which means that ideologues at both extremes of the political spectrum need to chill-out and decide that sometimes it’s a good thing to work with people whose views you don’t necessarily agree with for the common good.

    For example, while I’m no fan of McCain, I intend to work with those who are for the betterment of our country if he is elected. Who cares that my guy didn’t win? What matters is that we start fixing the things in our country that are broken– the economy, the war in Iraq, the low state of our schools, our dependence on foreign oil, etc.

    Of course, it’s a lot easier to adopt an extreme view based on emotion and invective than to reach out to those whose beliefs differ from your own and start fixing the problems that affect us all.

    Stop being part of the problem.

  109. Well, i would offer my thoughts in this manner.

    Where is capital punishment biblical? We cannot be pharisees. We cannot uphold the bible where it is convenient. Republicans have manipulated us for many years, and it has made us hypocritical.

    How can we be pro-life and pro-capital punishment? Both are MURDER.

    How can we want laws that keep women from having abortions, but oppose laws that force fair hiring practices for women and people of color?

    How can we oppose gay marriages and cover up sex-abuse scandals which destroyed the lives of innocent children? (sorry my Catholic friends)…

    Republicans are counting on us to be the hypocrites we are come election time and vote on the externally moral issues, ignoring the issues that Jesus spoke of when he said, “inasmuch as you have done unto the least of these, you have done it unto me”. When we ignore issues like healthcare (for those children we so passionately defend from abortion), job security, the environment and the housing crisis, how do we think Jesus feels about our treatment of the least of these?

    I like John McCain much better than I like the republican party. For the life of me, I wish people like John McCain and Barack Obama were neither democrat or republican; times like these would be much easier. But this year, I, like Lara, must be a thinking Christian voter rather than a bleeding pharisee.

  110. Well, i would offer my thoughts in this manner.

    Where is capital punishment biblical? We cannot be pharisees. We cannot uphold the bible where it is convenient. Republicans have manipulated us for many years, and it has made us hypocritical.

    How can we be pro-life and pro-capital punishment? Both are MURDER.

    How can we want laws that keep women from having abortions, but oppose laws that force fair hiring practices for women and people of color?

    How can we oppose gay marriages and cover up sex-abuse scandals which destroyed the lives of innocent children? (sorry my Catholic friends)…

    Republicans are counting on us to be the hypocrites we are come election time and vote on the externally moral issues, ignoring the issues that Jesus spoke of when he said, “inasmuch as you have done unto the least of these, you have done it unto me”. When we ignore issues like healthcare (for those children we so passionately defend from abortion), job security, the environment and the housing crisis, how do we think Jesus feels about our treatment of the least of these?

    I like John McCain much better than I like the republican party. For the life of me, I wish people like John McCain and Barack Obama were neither democrat or republican; times like these would be much easier. But this year, I, like Lara, must be a thinking Christian voter rather than a bleeding pharisee.

  111. As for Obama being the antichrist, and for all of this talk of him being muslim and not christian, those are all unfounded, unsubstantiated arguments. As for him being the friend of terrorists, let’s not forget that Reagan/Bush created Sadaam Hussein AND Osama Bin Laden. We were their friends when they were enemies of our enemies. Over the years, our friendship with these American made terrorists have deteriorated. When you consider that we gave Sadaam Hussein his start, it’s hard to compare the evil acts of his dictatorship to the socially antagonistic, yet certainly inexcuseable acts of Bill Ayers.

    The reality is, America didn’t send armies hunting for Bill Ayers and advocate for his murder by the government. That’s because smart Americans know the difference between a terrorist and a misguided, disgruntled American. That’s why the GOP doesn’t react to Sarah Palin’s friend, Joe Vogler, who said, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Now, is this a terrorist? No, it’s an idiot. Just the same as Bill Ayers. If the American legal system (which conservatives believe is so very just) had determined he was worse than that, his consequences would have been worse than what he received. But no, the same government that allows Joe Vogler to spew his stupidity allowed Bill Ayers his moment of fame, and kept going. Bill Ayers was caught, tried, convicted, sentenced, processed, released, and given the opportunity that Christians speak of so passionately everywhere but in the real world: repentance.

    WAKE UP! This is political garbage, meant to distract us from the issues at hand. Who cares who lived down the street from Obama? Who cares who lives next door to ONE OF McCain’s houses??? NOBODY!!! IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!! Who cares what some Christian Conservatives think about Obama being a community organizer? Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor…any more questions on that?

    When I go to surgery, I don’t ask my doctor is he is a Christian. I ask are you a good surgeon. PERIOD. When I go to a restaurant, I don’t ask for my meal to be prepared by the pro-life chef. And when I go for my haircut, I don’t ask my barber how he feels about same-sex marriage. I want to know if the individual is qualified to hold the position FIRST before I select their service. The most critical question in this election is that of qualification. We fell for the character shots the last two elections. What we have been stuck with is a pro-life, pro-marriage idiot who has rammed our international reputation underground and flushed the strength of our dollar down the toilet.

    And who cares about someone who misreads the bible and concludes that Obama is the antichrist because he is admired by many people, and because his estranged father was muslim??? What happened to all those people who sold their houses and cars and all of their worldly possessions because they thought that the last minute of the year 1999 was the eve of the end of the world? Where are they now? Sitting up trying to explain how they were able to pray to get God to change His mind. RIIIIGGGHT.

    Get real people. I am an evangelical Christian, but I am not STUPID. But hey, let’s say for the sake of a dumb argument that Obama IS the antichrist, and he has come to screw up the world. Hey, then at least his coming was prophesied and we know how this one will turn out. Rewind to eight years ago, and you couldn’t have convinced anyone that Bush could possibly do as much damage as he has done to our country and world…and look, he didn’t even have a biblical prophesy associated with “colossal blunders” (thanks Governor Palin!)

    I’ll leave the responsibility of the world’s salvation or demise up to God. Until He intervenes otherwise, then the responsibility to elect the most qualified individual for leading this nation is mine…and as long as I don’t have to stamp three 6’s on my forehead, that vote is for Barack Obama!!!

  112. Wow, Shaun… where have you been!!! Very well said….AMEN!!!

  113. Think Obama is running a clean campaign? Take a look.

  114. If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist. If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard! And half of our nation wants to elect this man to run our country!

  115. Subject: The grasshopper and ant

    OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat
    all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

    The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs
    and dances and plays the summer away.

    Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

    The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out
    in the cold.

    MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!



    The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer
    long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

    The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs
    and dances and plays the summer away.

    Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press
    conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.

    CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide
    pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.

    America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

    How can this be, that in a country of such wealth,
    this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

    Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, ‘It’s Not Easy Being Green.

    Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the
    ant’s house where the news stations film the group singing, ‘We shall overcome.’ Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper’s sake.

    Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with
    Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

    Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

    The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

    Michelle gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges
    that Barack Obama appointed from a list of single-parent welfare recipients.

    The ant loses the case.

    The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up
    the last bits of the ant’s food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant’s old house, crumbles around him because he doesn’t maintain it.

    The ant has disappeared in the snow.

    The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.

    MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2008

  116. That was great! Please keep posting illogical, unintelligent, rhetoric-laden, racially-charged, issue-irrelevant and utterly indefensible posts that fail to give a reasonable defense of why Obama is not the better candidate. You will continue to be in sync with the current dismantled GOP platform, and us intelligent folks will laught at you all the way to the polls.

  117. That was great! Please keep posting illogical, unintelligent, rhetoric-laden, racially-charged, issue-irrelevant and utterly indefensible posts that fail to give a reasonable defense of why Obama is not the better candidate. You will continue to be in sync with the current dismantled GOP platform, and us intelligent folks will laugh at you all the way to the polls.

  118. Well, if you must know, here is the way I REALLY feel about Barack Hussein:

    I am astounded at the many Americans who continue to support the presidential candidacy of Barack Hussein Obama, a US Senator who, in his very brief career, has accomplished absolutely nothing of note. Normally, voters try to select for president someone who has integrity, character, knowledge, and high morals, someone with the experience necessary to lead the most powerful country in the world, someone they can trust. Obama has demonstrated none of these traits. His position on important issues shifts with political expediency.

    One can judge a person by his associates. In Obama’s case this includes 1) Terrorist Bill Ayers and other Chicago “machine” politicians, 2) Anti-American, anti-white “preacher,” “Rev.” Wright, 3) Crooked real estate mogul and convicted felon Tony “the Fixer” Rezko, who “fixed” a deal to get a house for Obama at a bargain price, 4) Madeleine Talbot, leader of the ACORN group, a radical left-wing group now under investigation by the FBI for voter fraud, 5) Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, and Harry Reid, left-wing Democrat senators whose lack of oversight is primarily responsible for the failure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, 6) Franklin Raines, Tim Howard, and Jim Johnson, all Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac officials who cooked the books, destroyed the companies, and left with millions of dollars in unearned compensation and “golden parachutes,” 7) Radical leftists George Soros and David Geffen, and 8)Radicals such as Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan.

    Of the character traits mentioned above, trust is one of the most important. In Obama’s case, can you trust a man who 1) Served with an avowed anti-American terrorist on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an organization whose aims include “expanding (the) welfare state, allocating ever-increasing amounts of money to the public school system, and the redistribution of wealth via taxes,” 2) Is the choice for president of Hamas, Islamofascists, Muammar al-Kaddafi, and many terrorist groups, 3) Claimed he sat in “Rev.” Wright’s church for 20 years and never heard Wright spout anti-American or anti-white comments, 4) As a “community organizer,” trained activists for the left-wing organization ACORN, which is responsible in part for the current financial crisis, 5) Disavows any responsibility for the financial crisis, but, along with fellow left-wing Democrats, voted against bills designed to reform Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, all the while raking in huge amounts of their lobbyists’ cash, 6) Refuses to abide by the law and reveal the sources of his campaign contributions, some of which are definitely from illegal foreign sources, and 7) Hired as financial advisors the very people who looted and destroyed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – Franklin Raines, Ted Howard, and Jim Johnson.

    There are other questions about Obama’s suitability to be our president: 1) He supports a grotesque “infanticide” law. In 2001, as a state legislator in Illinois, he opposed a bill to protect live born children, 2) He has vowed to eliminate our nuclear weapons research, perhaps leaving us vulnerable to the growing might of Russia and China, 3) His wife, Michelle, says she’s obligated to put blacks before whites. Will he listen to her? 4) He described the Muslim call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,” 5) He was born and raised his early years a Muslim; questions remain regarding his religion. He made the statement “John McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith.” Was that a slip of the tongue? 6) He advocates universal health care, a plan that could in time place our health care system alongside those of third-world countries, 7) He has backed driver’s licenses for illegal aliens, and 8) He opposes gun rights. The NRA rated him an “F” on gun positions and says he is one of the most dangerous anti-gun politicians in the nation.

    How have we come to the point that a greenhorn like Obama stands a good chance of becoming our president?
    First, the politicians and business elites have gained almost total control over the media, who are now their servants and work unremittingly to mold public opinion in whatever direction serves their masters’ best interests. They have done everything they can to avoid asking key questions of Obama. Second, young voters — including our own children and grandchildren — are today being indoctrinated by biased liberal “educators” who distort the truth about terrorism, the financial and energy crises, our constitution and our laws, our religions, Barack Obama, and the very history of these United States.

    Although you may not consider John McCain and Sarah Palin to be the most suitable people to lead our nation, there can be no doubt of their patriotism and love of this country. So, before you step into the voting booth and vote for Obama, ask yourself one question:

    Am I completely insane?

  119. Go Malcolm! Go Malcolm! Go Malcolm! Go…

  120. Am I supposed to elect the leader of the free world based upon his associations? You mean to tell me that if you had a choice between the top neurosurgeon in the world and a resident intern, you would choose the resident intern because you feel his friends are more patriotic??? How insane is that?

    How about McCain’s friend Charles Keating, the economic terrorist whose shady dealings cost 21,000 investors more than 280 million in their life savings in one of the worst economic crises in American history…that happened as a result of the very deregulation that McCain championed until it became politically unpopular to do so?

    Or McCain’s friend, the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, who said that the terrorist attacks were a result of God’s wrath on a nation tolerant of “pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the A.C.L.U., People for the American Way”?

    Or his association with Rev. John Hagee, who said in 2006, “I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are—were recipients of the judgment of God for that.”, and “It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God’s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day… Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of antisemitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come…. it rises from the judgment of God upon his rebellious chosen people.”, and ” the Roman Catholic Church “plunged the world into the Dark Ages,” allowed for the Crusaders to rape and murder with impunity”.

    Or what about his association, or shall I say, close friendship, with lobbyist and former fundraiser Vicki Iseman, with whom McCain’s own advisers have admitted concerns about extramarital romance; on whose behalf McCain often wrote letters when her clients often had business before the Senate committee McCain led. Of course, his aides and staffers worked hard to cover this up because it would threaten the story of redemption and rectitude that has defined his political identity (even more than his adulterous affair with his current wife that led to him requesting divorce from his disabled first wife).

    If I’m to judge McCain’s character by his associations, then I must conclude that he is a financially irresponsible, anticatholic and anti-semitic adulterer who believes that God hates gays, Jews, Muslims, Blacks, the ACLU, and anyone else living in sin and points to the last few major world disasters to prove it. If I were to reach that conclusion about John McCain based upon his associations you would call me an idiot.

    So do yourself a favor and write this in your next post: “I’m an idiot.” Because you still fail to give reasonable defense with nothing more than the rhetoric your party has fed to you.

  121. First of all, Obama was born of a white mother and a black father from Indonesia. He lived in Hawaii and was educated at Harvard University. If he is the anit-Christ then I am a banshe. He is a good man and people that proclaim themselves to be Christians, do not cast false doubts about their brethern, remember the first that is without sin cast the first stone! Obama will be the next president because the good people of all faiths believe in him, to lead our country not to be our Diety, and we will make it so. Only God knows when the end will be near, and for you to scare people into a false vote is totally unGodly and you are shamed in thinking otherwise. May God forgive you!

  122. Addendum:
    Barack Obama was adopted by his white mother, sorry for the mistake. But the rest I stand strong on.
    Thank you!

  123. Letter from a former Obama supporter:

    To All My Friends, this is very important, please take the time to read it. This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking “where did the money come from for Obama”.
    I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. “Barry” (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a “round the world” trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question – Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had
    money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition?
    Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.

    By “chance” he met Antoin “Tony” Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named “Entrepreneur of the Decade “by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association”. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what?
    They represented “Rezar” which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first
    major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David
    Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with “seed money”
    for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans – Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

    Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was “sacked” after the press found out he was having regular contacts with “Hamas”, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will “Take care of things”.

    Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those “small” Internet campaign contribution for Obama.
    Where is that money coming from?
    The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

    And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
    posted a verbal slip that was made on “This Week” with George
    Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, “My Muslim faith”. When questioned, “he make a mistake”. Some mistake!

    All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it – Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times –
    Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
    Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our “intelligent” members of the press been reporting this?
    A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – “Beware of the enemy from within”

  124. Here is Revelation 13. You’ve been deceived. Never mentions a man in his 40’s, or any mention of his ethnic or religious descent at all. Read the scriptures and decide for yourself.

    1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
    4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
    5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
    6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
    7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and apower was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
    9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
    10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
    11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
    13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

  125. I have heard various views on the person of the Anti-Christ. This is the first time I heard the Anti-Christ will be in his forties from Muslim Descent. In the sixties some thought the Antichrist was John F. Kennedy. I have heard others state that Ronald Reagan was the Anti-Christ. Former Pope John Paul was viewed by some as the Anti-Christ. I really doubt the Anti-Christ is the Democratic Presidential Nominee. The book of Revelation should be viewed in light of the great metanarrative of redemption, honoring Christ as the King. We need to spend time seeking Christ instead of trying to find the Anti-Christ.

    Secondly, the scripture is being taken out of context. This is a “reading into” the scripture. We can take any scripture and twist it to state diatribes like the one mentioned. Don’t be surprised if someone finds a scripture to state McCain is the Anti-Christ.

  126. I did not originate nor have I sent the email about “Revelation 13, the anti-Christ, a muslim, etc.” Someone evidently added it to the note I wrote about Obama saying “Ameica is not a Christian nation…”. I stand by my letter which I sent to a few friends, but want to disassociate myself from the looney rumor inferring Sen. Obama is the anti-Christ. Again, I did not write it nor did I send it to anyone. I know the Bible does not teach what it says and I believe it is wrong to wrongly imply something the Bible does not teach.

  127. You have got to be kidding me. On September 6, 2008 at 8:19 pm robert j Said: “Here are a few facts concerning obama: 1)He said his grandmother has always been a christian.Yet she says her morning salat prayers daily. 2)obama is 50% caucasin,6.25% african black,and 43.75% arabic.Though his father was from kenya,he was 87.5% arabic. 3)obama’s kenyan cousin,Odinga,has created mass violence in kenya trying to overthrow the government”
    First, Obama is mixed, yes. But his father is Luo, a tribe that has a long history of being proudly AFRICAN. He is mixed between AFRICAN and WHITE AMERICAN. I cannot believe that somebody as ignorant as Mr. J, would even dare post something like this. It exposes his racist hear to the core. Secondly, the word cousin is used very loosely here in Africa. Everyone is EVERYONE’S COUSIN. Period. End of conversation. The current president of Kenya is so corrupt it isnt even funny. Odinga, coming from the same tribe as Obama is a Christian you idot. He didnt try and overthrow the government, he tried to get what he rightfully won, but was denied, because of the corruption of Kenya. There was so much voter fraud it wasnt even funny. He is now the prime minister with the current and same president. If he tried to overthrow the government, then why is he serving in that same government??? The violence in Kenya had nothing to do with trying to overthrow, or kill christians. It was purely ethnic and tribal. It was CHRISTIANS KILLING CHRISTIANS.
    If you are going to post something at least sound intelligent and get your facts straight!

  128. We are all born sinners. May God have mercy on our souls. For it is only through Him that we will live forever. God made us and He can take us away. Pray, ask forgiveness for yours/our sins, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. This is a very turbulent time with the money/economic crisis, election of the presidency when we need an honest and strong leader more than ever. Do you own background studies and make up your own mind. And pray for guidance in all you do and say.

  129. See Snopes at link below re an email sent by a black pianist named Huntley Brown who refuses to vote for Obama and gives excellent reasons why not. It should be sent to every Democrat, Independent and black voter in this country.

    Here is evidence to support this link which is quite disturbing.

  130. I am a devout christian. Like Jesus Christ not like you christians who proclaim hate and judgement. Jesus Christ was a rebel and disliked the rich and fed the poor and loved everyone.
    Your silly ignorant fair about obama being anti-christ shows how ignorant you all are.
    the bible does not state in any certain terms the things you are saying it is all very prophetic and left to a lot of intrepretation.
    By the way, I think we have already had the anti=christ in office for 8 years he has ruined the united states and led all of you people to believe that you are in fantasy land thinking the socialist republican party is going to help you when in reality they are trying to keep you down. Because they want to become really really really rich the rich own over 50x more than 50% of this country wealth.
    they are trying to put us all in the poor house.
    So you guys better vote republican if you want to go to the poorhouse.
    congratus for another crap 4 years if you succeed.

  131. Our forefathers did not fight “and die for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation.” Our forefathers most explicitly fought and died for our right to practice religion, as individuals, as we see fit. Unlike in other countries where there is an official state religion and religious fundamentalism rules the day, our forefathers left our great country with a strong and deliberate legacy of freedom of religion and separation of church and state that is the foundation of our democratic society.

    In no place in the Bible — Revelation or elsewhere — is the antichrist described with a laundry list of things, let alone “a man, in his 40s, of Muslim descent.” THE MUSLIM RELIGION WAS NOT EVEN FOUNDED UNTIL FOUR HUNDRED YEARS AFTER THE BOOK OF REVELATION WAS COMPLETED.

    Would somebody be willing to explain to me how this could be written in Revelation and yet Islam was not even founded as a religion until four hundred years later?

    Until then, I will believe that this charge is willfully ignorant and irresponsibly incendiary, and I will believe that it is shameful to perpetuate it. It is stoking a dangerous kind of hate and it has no place in civilized discussion. Does this email not sound to you exactly like something you would find in the religious fundamentalist countries that have no freedom of religion? Do you believe Jesus would approve of this kind of scurrilous judgement of another human being and the propogation of shameful lies? What happened to “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor”?

    These two outrageous claims corrected on this site, and I would ask that you do so.



  133. I’m with you RM. I mean this here is news! I googled Obama birth certificate and found it. I’m sure it is a fake tho. Wonder why these dummys haven’t kicked him off the ballot? you’d think they woulda checked that out before this here election. I shore wanna see Obama’s health records. Lord forbid ole Biden take office since he has NO experience. What we need is Palin. She proudly says shes a red neck women justlike me. yeeeeehaw!!@

  134. I’m makin me an anouncement. Since I can see the courthouse from my house I’m a runnin for countyjudge. God bless America!@!@

  135. Hay RM you reckon they’d buy me some new britches? Minz is kinda stretched out after having all these babies. (I hooked up with Joe the Plumber we have so much in common.) And I was just a think’n you watch, I bet old Obama will fake his ole grannys illness 2 I mean come on can you beleive they let that feller go vist that old hag? smells alwfully fishey 2 me. looks like he was just a needin a vacation. let’s show up RM you go VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN

  136. Redneck Woman, my guess is that you are a born US citizen, right? Well, I’m not. When I came to the US in 1959, I had to go through a lot of red tape, I also had to learn English and divulge my entire medical history to become an American citizen. I’ve worked nearly 40 years of my life in the good ‘ol USA and paid my US taxes along the way. I’ve also supported many charity projects in the US since I made my citizenship. I’ve had to prove my worthiness to be a US citizen nearly 50 years. The person who will be our next President will represent me and many other like me who came to the US and made their citizenship. With all that said, do you realize that I cannot run for the office of the Presidency, even if I wanted to, because I was not a born US citizen. My point is, do your research before you vote to make sure you know who you’re really voting for. I’m writing in my vote for President this year!

  137. RM, looks 2 me like u gotta bone 2 pick with Biden. Heck take that rascal 2 court. I waz reading wat u wrote up above and if what you say is true you could sue the pants off of that feller. I know a real good lawyer in Memphis that I bet would be glad to represnt you. Maybe since Palin pals around with witch doctors or whatever that feller was no wait I think he was a preacher anyway maybe we could get a hold of him and get him to put a hex on Biden. Hay I read what u rote on Sept. 26,2008 that “Biden’s gonna excuse himself be replace by Hilary” what the heck happened? You dabbling in some kina fortue tellin’ yourself? So you are like that ole Obama feller not born in the good ole USA? you would think somebody (like McCain) wooda fingured that out by now. And thank you for bring to allour attention how smart you are. I c youlive in VA. Aint there any good lawyers in VA tohelp you with your collecting your $ from Biden. I am proud to be from Vicksburg Mississippi. We don’t wont the socialistic goverment in our business. They already made us gid rid of the snakes in our church and stoped us from marrying family. They contiune to try to take my confederate flag away.I’ve done my research and let me tell you I am proudly voting for the the candidate that has all our best interest at heart. it aint no muslim or arab it’s a gun totin moose shootin’ redneck women just like me! Go Palin/Mccain

  138. RM you aint gonna believe better sit down. My cousin Berdie Mae just called and told me that John McCain aint no natural-born citizen either. She said he was born in Panama. Its a good thing he’s got Palin coverin his back. some say shes not the sharpest tool in the shed, bless her heart, my daddy always said you can judge a good woman by her cornbread and children. I aint never heard about her cornbread cookin but they say she makes mean moose stew. Let me tell you,any woman who can take care of 5 childrens while keepin an eye of Russia. heck it wouldnt take no rocket scientest to figure out how to vote.

  139. Current Rumor…..Keep your ears open for this one.

    Obama didn’t really go to Honalulu Hawaii to see old sick granny. (she was fakin) He went to try to come up with a real birth certificate. granny was in on it
    thats what she was really doing at that hospital.

  140. Redneck Woman, your having a lot of fun with this site. And since you seem to be quite intelligent, maybe you want to take a shot at predicting whom Mr. Obama has eyed to fill his cabinet positions if he should get elected? Let’s just start with Mr. Colin Powell, a person whom I have the utmost respect for. And while we’re on the subject, would you like to predict whom Mr. McCain will most likely appoint to his cabinet?

  141. And by the way, RW, Carribou sausage ain’t bad eatin’ either. I’m sure that Sarah Palin would be most happy to send you some, along with some, snow-shoe rabbit and canned salmon from Anchorage, Alaska. You ought to try some. Better than any possum or raccoon! I must say, Alaska is an absolutely beautiful place. I lived there for a while in the 1970’s. You can’t go snowmobilin’ in Vickburg unless you get one heck of a huge snowstorm. However, it’s a way of life in Alaska. Hope you get to visit someday.

  142. come on we both no that the only reason that Powell picked Obama was because they are both are black. I aint never had carribou sausage but i did see one on national geographic (mr smarty pants) Im sure she could spare those snow-rabbit shoes since she just got a bunch of new i’d be happy to take um! no thank ya on the salmon i prefer catfish. have you ever tired possum (I think it’s spelled with an o in the beginning) or racoon> It’s awfully tastey. we may not go snowmobilin but I have a fourwheeler that go ANY where ANY time!!!

  143. That’s “Ms.” Smarty Pants, thank you!

  144. This is the saddest website and comments that I’ve read anywhere on the web. The hatred that is spewing from the “Christians” towards people who express another view and towards Obama is pathetic. Nothing that I read here is based upon the teachings of Christ. As a white born again Christian for over 50 years I am worried about the fate of the Christian church in the US if this is what is being taught in some of the churches. If you don’t want to vote for someone that’s OK just base it on facts and not propaganda. Perhaps you should question why some of the ministers? and other religious leaders? on this page have so much hatred in their hearts for persons of another culture, race, and/or political party.

  145. Following is the email in its entirety as received by VS on August 14, 2008, from a reader or other interested party, that is copied (without email addresses) here as a means of clarifying its origin and contents. Dr. Tisdale has denied the email came from him, and VS confirms such. As can be seen, although Dr. Tisdale’s name is mentioned, it is not clear that the words preceding or following his name are his:

    {This will make you re-think : A Trivia question in Sunday School :
    How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations ?

    Guess the Answer?

    Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
    Almost a four-year term to a Presidency.

    All I can say is Lord Have Mercy on us.!!!!!!

    According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will
    be a man, in his 40’s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with
    persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says
    that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,
    and when he is in power, will destroy everything ..

    Is it OBAMA??

    I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
    you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet…do it!
    I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.

    From: Dr. John Tisdale

    (From another email)

    Dear Friends,

    As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .”we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . . As with so many other statements I’ve heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I’d see the day that I’d hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation–and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.
    I hope that each of you will do what I’m doing now–send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God’s help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!
    Please pray for our nation!}

    VS suspects that the latter paragraphs are the words of Dr. Tisdale, and the paragraphs preceding his name are the words of a reader/viewer. Apologies to Dr. Tisdale are extended.

  146. I am from Vicksburg and my comments written above (Redneck Woman) were an attempt at showing fellow citizens of Vicksburg how ignorant some (locals) were sounding. These clowns continue to promote and propagate lies, hatred, prejudice, slander, deception and much ignorance….all in the name of God and country. American democracy is suppose to be about the freedom for any American to run for office or vote for any candidate that one chooses regardless of gender, race, religion, creed or color. Why anyone, but especially those who call themselves Christians, would try to discredit, slander, lie and tear down any candidate is beyond comprehension and certainly not keeping with the values that Christ taught. If folks want to vote for McCain or Obama it is their American right to do so but again I ask why the need for such lies and nonsense like…Obama’s not a US citizen, he is a terrorist, a Muslim, an Arab, a Socialist, a communist, the anti-Christ or some how un-American. All of these “labels” (and more) appear in the archives of this forum. Just because someone looks or believes differently than we, does not justify such vile behavior. This forum started out as a venue to discuss concerns of Vicksburg and Warren County citizens however it has developed into a breeding ground for lunatics looking to spread their personal fanatical lies and deception to tear down someone whom they have never met or bothered to truly get to know factually. This forum unfortunately gives credence to the stereotypical view that many Americans hold of southerners. Please do us citizens of Vicksburg a favor by stopping the lies, hatred, prejudice, slander, deception and ignorance or change the name to something other than “Vicksburg Speaks, A Forum for Citizens of Vicksburg and Warren County”. You have brought shame to our city, state, county and country. This “forum” does NOT represent the majority of Vicksburg, or Warren County. So for all of you who have found it offensive, please take not that this southern lady does too.

  147. opps, PLEASE take NOTE that this southern lady finds it offensive too.

  148. RE: Anti-Christ
    Another hysterical anti-Obama campaign. I’m tired of all of it, though, from both sides.

    If they would take all the money spent on negative campaigns, and put that exact same amount into programs that would actually be of benefit to people, then I’d vote for the person. As it is, I cannot stand another four years of any Republican administration.

    Oil prices are high, so gas is high. Since gas is high, therefore the cost of goods has gone higher, because truckers are having a hard time. Teachers are having a hard time. Retirement incomes have disintegrated.

    The only ones getting rich and living comfortable lives are oilmen.

    Some people assume that all people believe alike. I don’t believe like non-Indians. They came over here, for “religious freedom” yet did not allow the Native peoples of this continent to have our own religions. And they still are after what is rightfully ours. Sarah Palin has been trying to get Indian hunting and fishing rights revoked in Alaska. She’s dangerous.

    People will grasp at straws to get someone elected. We already know that Bush “bought” the Florida electors in previous elections.

    And this person is asking us to send to the “Christians” on our list. I have a lot of people on my list, a lot of “Christians” but I’m not sending that email out.

    And Obama is right – we are a nation of many peoples, NATIVE peoples. We are a nation that was built upon Indian land. Indian land that was OURS, but they took it, because that is what European people do. They take things.

    The anti-christ is George W. Bush. He’s the person we needed to have watched out for, not Barack Obama!

  149. Does the phrase “ObamaNation that causes desolation” ring a bell for anyone?

  150. I am a McCain supporter but must tell you that this web-site is a disgrace. This is what our country has come to?

  151. I find this entire web site to be offensive. I thought the “old-South” had moved forward. Is this for real? “Vicksburg Speaks”. I grew up in Warren county, graduated from the University of Mississippi and must tell you that this web site does not speak for me. Vote for who ever you want, but leave the racist, ugly comments to yourself. This web site does NOT speak for the citizens of Vicksburg and Warren County.

  152. OK, so I’m pretty sure that everyone in the Christian society believes
    the Antichrist will rule as a president. But in fact there is no way
    for us to be sure. This email had one fact in it that I found to be
    wrong and I just felt that I should share what I have found. The Bible
    tells us in Hosea 4:6 “My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
    Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests;
    because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your
    children.” So I ask you all to please share this with your fellow

    This email states that the Bible tells of the Antichrist being of
    Muslim descent. That is not true The Bible does contain clues as to
    where the Antichrist will come from though. In Daniel 9:26-27 we see
    that the Antichrist will be of Roman descent.

    And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not
    for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall
    destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with
    a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation’s are decreed. And he
    shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of
    the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and
    for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even
    until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the

    The prince who is to come in Daniel is the Antichrist. The prince of
    verse 26 is the same person in verse 27. “The people of the prince”
    are the Romans for they destroyed the city of Jerusalem and its
    magnificent Temple in AD 70. This means that the Antichrist will be
    Roman descent.

    By no means am I telling anyone to vote for Obama or am I saying what
    he is doing is right. He will change our nation and he will lead us in
    a very wrong direction. He is very anti christian and goes against
    everything our nation stood for once. If he gets into office it may
    very well be laying ground for the Antichrist but I do not believe he
    is in fact the Antichrist. And I also believe God has a plan and his
    plan will not be stopped and we should not be afraid. Isaiah 41:10 “So
    do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
    I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my
    righteous right hand.”

  153. Obama is very anti christian and may very well be laying ground work for the Antichrist, but he is not it. Obama goes against everything our nation stood for once.

  154. Nikki, agreed. There will be many antichrists, but the Antichrist is someone yet to be revealed though likely alive at this moment. We all need to be in prayer for our country today and really every day until the Lord comes again.

  155. Well, we now know Obama is our next President and he is not what you are portraying of him. It is absolutely ridiculous what is posted on here! Get your facts right and quit this nonsense! He is a wonderful, caring and good man and will do just fine being our President. Anything would be better than the last 8 years!!!!!

  156. No Barack Obama is not the anti-christ George Bush
    was.thank God for giving us another chance, people
    like you enjoyed the oppression of the Bush administ-
    ration and seems to not want to let it go.

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  161. Kelsey…

    kinda makes you wonder….

  162. Yeah Obama’s the Antichrist
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